Video La venganza de los eléctricos: bloquean una gasolinera

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    Hartos de que los coches de combustión aparquen en los puntos de recarga eléctricos, un grupo de electrificados han bloqueado esta gasolinera durante 6 minutos para darles su propia medicina :D
    Ha sido en Croacia :pompous:



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    Nada como una buena ración de su medicina,la mala educación y la falta de respeto no es sólo propio de España, también se practica en otras bananeras.
     
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    Menuda panda imbéciles, cuando pillen uno de combustión en su área de carga eléctrica, que bloqueen el que infringe.

    Cualquier otra cosa, como digo antes, es de imbécil.
     
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    Hombre, lo han hecho durante solo 6 minutos, con los conductores dentro de los coches y para llamar la atención del problema que causan aparcando en los puntos de recarga, que no suelen ser de solo 6 minutos ni están los conductores dentro de los coches, Pepiño :D
     
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    ¿Que majos no? ¿Y Greta?
     
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    Y así matamos moscas a cañonazos, claro. Muy bien!!

    Manda huevos que perjudiquen al tipo de una gasolinera que no va con él y a los usuarios de ésta que tampoco....

    :facepalm:
     
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    Por menos se montó la guerra de los Balcanes. Qué sigan jugando. :descojon:
     
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    Cuando intentas jorobar a todo el mundo, cuando en realidad tratas de señalar a 3, te vuelves un imbécil.
     
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    Hoy han publicado novedades de este caso, resulta que en Croacia, lugar de nacimiento de Nikola Tesla :chulo:, es muy común aparcar coches de combustión en puntos de recarga electricos porque no tienen ninguna ley que lo prohíba :nose: y cuando los conductores de un coche eléctrico tienen que cargar su coche y lo encuentran bloqueado, llaman a la policía para que lo retire y les dicen que no pueden hacer nada.
    Dicen que han mandado cartas y nadie les hace caso, incluso dicen que los agreden por protestar, por eso han hecho este bloqueo simbólico de solo 6 minutos y parece que con el revuelo está dando resultados :devil:

    Intimidation And Impunity: What Led To Revenge Of EVs In Croatia




    DEC 12, 2019 at 8:48AM

    By: Gustavo Henrique Ruffo

    Will the government pass laws that make ICE’ing punishable there?
    After we wrote about the “Revenge Of EVs” in Croatia, we got many reactions to what Igor Kolovrat and 14 other electric car owners decided to do. Most of them, negative, ranging from pure disapproval to threats.

    We have talked to Kolovrat, and our impression is that he just got tired of waiting. ICE’ing – having combustion-engined cars block a charging point – is a severe issue in Croatia, and the government there does not seem to care about it.

    “The idea came from the position of someone who has been driving electric cars for almost ten years and for numerous times cannot charge because a fossil-fuel car is parked at the charging point. In Croatia, I would call the services and the police, but each time the answer was that there was still no law under which they could act. I installed almost all first charging stations in Croatia. I even donated one in front of Nikola Tesla’s birth house in the village of Smiljan, in Lika county, before our Nikola Tesla EV Rally started in March 2014. Look at the paradox; you can not even charge at stations you installed. It makes me very angry because most of those people will soon drive electric cars as well. And they will enjoy them.”

    In other words, ICE cars can park wherever they want with no consequences in Croatia. As if charging spots were only common parking spots. Even PHEVs users there lack the courtesy of knowing that EV charging points are not reserved for cars that are not being charged, even if they can be.

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    Kolovrat has tried to solve the matter in the most friendly way possible dozens of times to no avail.

    “I wrote letters and tried in various ways to point out this problem, but as combustion-engined cars rule in Croatia, my voice could not be heard. There have been several incidents at the Tesla Supercharger east of Zagreb and one of our friends from the Tesla community has been physically attacked by locals who were intoxicated and parked on a Supercharger from a pure whim.”

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    Apart from physical aggression, there were also cases of intimidation, as with this car from the Croatian Judo Federation below.

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    The guy parked at a charging point, and, when he was asked to park elsewhere, he said: "Do you see the sticker on the hood?" He was referring to a HEP sticker. HEP is the state-owned grid company in Croatia, about which we will talk more ahead. Anyway, he could also be talking about the fact that he was probably a fighter. Not a very sportsman attitude, for sure.

    When people are ignored, they scream. But even that was not as harsh as people may have thought from the first reports on the "performance," as Kolovrat calls it. He and his friends made sure everything was as pacific as it could be.

    “As you know, there are already various movements of electric haters, and incidents are constantly occurring where there are more EV drivers. So I invited friends and asked them to invite others. Not only Tesla drivers but other EV owners as well to join us. The performance was intended as a message to the government. We have a problem that no one wants to solve and this was the only way to get attention. I must point out that it all took about 6 minutes, that we had previously called the media and that each of us 15 made some purchases at a gas station, whose employees were surprised but very friendly, as we were.”

    Kolovrat lives in Amsterdam but is always in Croatia, as well. Despite some reports that the event was in the Netherlands, it was in Croatia, as we first told our readers.

    “This event took place in Zagreb, Croatia, at an INA gas station in the city center. INA is a Croatian-Hungarian company that actively ignores climate change and strongly influences public opinion in Croatia as a company and with lobbyists. There are circles that want to keep Croatia in the fossil fuel chains for as long as possible. This year, the Croatian government awarded concessions in new areas – mountains, national park edges, beautiful karst natural areas, and the Adriatic Sea – as if oil would be fuel forever. At the same time, our biggest enemy in all E-mobility actions is the state-owned grid company HEP, the most influential and largest company in Croatia. It either ignores our activities or openly obstructs us: chargers randomly charge, often do not work, the charge for network connection costs more than the charger itself, etc.”

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    Not only them, as you have seen in the tweets above. But how did it end up for Kolovrat and his fellow Croatian EV owners? Did it pay off to make the “performance,” or did it backfire?

    “The next day, they started with the legalization of punishing those who obstruct charging stations. In some positions that were constantly occupied by fossil-fuel cars, now there is peace and good. We definitely encouraged some infantile petrolheads to park at charging spots the next day and post a photo with some inappropriate and offensive comment on EV, but they certainly do so with many other rule violations. Anyway, I just got a message in which the city administration officials and so-called energy experts discuss the solution. Our protest woke them up and the traditionally slow Croatian bureaucracy started moving. After the quietest rally – as Los Angeles Times stated – we have the quietest protest.”


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    The pictures above were taken after the protest. And they show free charging spots where EV owners usually had none.

    Despite the apparent success, Kolovrat promises to keep protesting until the situation changes.

    “We will not stop until the law for punishing parking at charging stations passes. For some time now, we have been advocating the adoption of a law that would exempt all EV buyers in Croatia from paying VAT. If for some reason it is not possible in the EU, to at least reduce it to 2 percent or 3 percent. The paradigm is changing and I want to actively participate, creating new solutions and enjoying the fight of David vs. Goliath.”

    Part of Kolovrat's efforts in this is the Nikola Tesla EV Rally. Maye Musk has participated in its second edition, in 2015. Below you can see both of them on that occasion.

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    For the detractors of the “EV performance,” he has only one thing to say.

    “If we wanted to provoke incidents, then we would have stayed longer. We coordinated everything with the media. The intention was to point out and show how stupid it is to deprive someone of their ability to move and to point out that this is constantly happening to electric vehicle owners.”


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    Amazingly, the fiercest criticism came from where Kolovrat least expected it.

    “At Tesla Owners Worldwide, some people were very offensive to me. Despite repeated explanations of what it was about, they were still persistent in insulting and belittling this action, which we called after the movie of Chris Paine. If you look at the profiles of some of the most vocal critics of our action, you will find that none of them drives a Tesla or other EVs. They proudly keep fossil-burners on their profile photos. My post has been removed by administrators because in their view it promotes misconduct and has nothing to do with Tesla or the industry in which Tesla operates.”


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    We hope Kolovrat and other EV drivers in Croatia finally have some peace of mind. And that, when they call the police, people parking regular cars at charging spots face the same treatment a Ford Raptor had in Berlin. It is only fair.

    Even if that happens, Kolovrat still has other demands.

    “I have been advocating for some time that Croatia be officially proclaimed the ‘Homeland of Nikola Tesla’ and that the implementation of new socially useful technological solutions is accelerated in every possible way. Technology is advancing much faster than governance. We do not have time to wait for bureaucrats to realize the benefit to the people as our planet gets warmer and warmer.”
    https://insideevs.com/features/387515/intimidation-impunity-led-revenge-evs-croatia/
     
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    Gavira, como persona inteligente que eres, sabrás posiblemente lo han hecho por la repercusión mediática que podía llegar a tener, 6 minutos no joroba a nadie, pero en cambio la acción hace que ahora estemos hablando de ello, nosotros y otra mucha gente, y seguro que llegará a muchos de los que aparcan en reservados para eléctricos. O no.

    Pero lo de insultar a alguien solo porque no compartas la acción creo que no es necesario.
     
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    Seguro que si hubiese tantos enchufes como boquereles tampoco tendrían problemas para hacer su recarga en su sitio. Me parece que el problema no es que ocupen una plaza.
     
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    No te has leído el artículo explicando el motivo, es interesante porque dice que hay un lobby en Croacia que niega el cambio climático, no tienen leyes que prohíban aparcar en los puntos de recarga, la policía no les hace caso, los conductores les agreden, incluso aparcan en los puntos de recarga como diversión, para emborracharse y reirse de ellos.
    La protesta la hicieron solo 15 coches eléctricos en una gasolinera de una empresa del lobby negacionista, previamente habían avisado a los medios para que se hicieran eco, y lo único que hicieron fue parar los 15 coches eléctricos y pasar sus 15 conductores a comprar algo cada uno a la tienda de la gasolinera, o sea que no hicieron nada ilegal, todo fue para llamar la atención y solo duró 6 minutos.
    Al día siguiente milagrosamente aparecieron libres los puntos de recarga y por la repercusión en los medios parece que van a empezar a multar a los coches de combustión que aparquen en los mismos :devil:
     
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    Nos hemos acostumbrado a los CDR y similares, vienen 20 a cortar la carretera a fastidiar a 25000, sus motivos que los planteen

    Al dueño del punto de carga
    A los que legislan
    Al municipio

    Claro, lo fácil es hacérselo pagar a todo el mundo, indiscriminadamente.

    Y ya me anticipo a vuestra excusa fácil, es que son 6 minutos. La próxima que no sean 20 coches y 6 minutos, mejor 6 coches 20 minutos justo al revés. Para seguir molestando los usuarios
    :muro:

    Política de la calle, no, gracias. Lo importante es molestar a mucha gente que no tiene nada que ver con eso. Pues no.

    Y aunque tengan razón, lo que hacen es COACCIONAR.

    En fin, no siempre íbamos a estar de acuerdo en todo
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    No mezcles churras con merinas :D ni peras con manzanas :LOL: pararon 15 coches eléctricos a comprar sus 15 conductores en la tienda de la gasolinera, dejaron su ganancia a la empresa y lo hicieron muy rápido, a medio minuto la compra por conductor :sneaky:
    Durante esos 6 minutos los medios aprovecharon para sacar fotos y vídeos, se ve que no hubo ninguna queja ni protesta de nadie, ningún coche de combustión fue coaccionado en nada, ya dijeron que si hubiesen querido podrían haber tardado bastante más en hacer las compras pero no quisieron hacer lo mismo que les hacen a ellos ;)
     
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    :poop:

    Coacción, politica de la calle, una pincelada de Podemos.

    ¿Puedes?
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    Sí se circula a 180 es que sí se puede :p
     

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