Duda Lluvia de Rheingold's???

Bandel

En Practicas
A ver, hasta ahora siempre me maneje con el INPA (5.02 y 5.06) y el DIS57 con los cuales si bien no los se manejar al 100%, para mi uso fueron más que suficientes.

Hace un tiempo ya me entro la curiosidad acerca del Rheingold y me puse en campaña viendo el post del compañero kamicace1
(BMW Rheingold español 3.51.25… = http://www.bmwfaq.com/threads/bmw-rheingold-espanol-3-51-25-instruciones-de-instalacion.892167)

Hasta acá todo bien pero comienzo a ver que han salido en este último mes varias versiones distintas y en muy poco tiempo:

ISTA-D Rheingold v3.53.13
3.56.21
3.56.31 Standalone
4.01.21 Standalone
4.01.22 Standalone
4.02.14 Standalone
4.02.22 Standalone y
4.03.13 Standalone

Todo esto en poco más de 1 mes. Que es lo que ocurre? Todas funcionan mal que hay tantos updates?

A ver si alguien con conocimientos puede aclarar esto.

Ahh y también he visto por ahí que anda dando vueltas una versión de INPA 5.50 (es verídica o no??)

Les dejo la inquietud, saludos
 

jormi

Forista Senior
A ver, hasta ahora siempre me maneje con el INPA (5.02 y 5.06) y el DIS57 con los cuales si bien no los se manejar al 100%, para mi uso fueron más que suficientes.

Hace un tiempo ya me entro la curiosidad acerca del Rheingold y me puse en campaña viendo el post del compañero kamicace1
(BMW Rheingold español 3.51.25… = http://www.bmwfaq.com/threads/bmw-rheingold-espanol-3-51-25-instruciones-de-instalacion.892167)

Hasta acá todo bien pero comienzo a ver que han salido en este último mes varias versiones distintas y en muy poco tiempo:

ISTA-D Rheingold v3.53.13
3.56.21
3.56.31 Standalone
4.01.21 Standalone
4.01.22 Standalone
4.02.14 Standalone
4.02.22 Standalone y
4.03.13 Standalone

Todo esto en poco más de 1 mes. Que es lo que ocurre? Todas funcionan mal que hay tantos updates?

A ver si alguien con conocimientos puede aclarar esto.

Ahh y también he visto por ahí que anda dando vueltas una versión de INPA 5.50 (es verídica o no??)

Les dejo la inquietud, saludos

andar con dis teniendo rheingold creo que ya no merece la pena. hasta yo que hice el manual he dejao de hacerlo.

por otro lado si tienes la version 4 me interesa que sigo la 3.
 

igortzi520

En Practicas
Yo que me acabo de descargar la 4.21.01 y me dices esto... jajaja Ya tengo la 4.03.13 en descarga con el ISTA-P 3.60.2.001...
 
Yo que me acabo de descargar la 4.21.01 y me dices esto... jajaja Ya tengo la 4.03.13 en descarga con el ISTA-P 3.60.2.001...

yo la verdad es que para lo que utilizo sigo con el ista d 3.51 "in spanish" jiji me da miedo actualizar y que se me quede en ingles.

Coincido totalmente con @jormi en que el dis ya se ha quedado para vestir santos si tienes el rehingold.

el ista p me lo descarge con un "loader" que al principio eliges el tipo de conexion y la serie del coche, pero conectando al coche me pide "no se que pollas de importar" y me hice caquita, ni comentar que deshice lo andado y lo deje para otro momento de inspiracion y valentia.
 

rdesign

En Practicas
Hola. Alguien seria tan amable de pasarme un enlace fiable de un rheingold que este usando el mismo.
Llevo varios dias con el tema, leyendo, me he bajado varias versiones y despues a la hora de la instalacion me da problema el ISTAGUI que no avanza. Tengo la 4.01.21 pero ni he conseguido ponerla a funcionar.

Agradeceria el enlace de una version fiable a ver si puedo ponerme y aprender en este tema.

Gracias.
 

xescouto01

En Practicas
Pues llevo unos dias leyendo todo esto, a la espera de que me llegue el cable y empezar a trastear.
A priori (repito, no tengo todavia el cable), me despista la cantidad de versiones y cual debería usar....
Me recomendais alguna (y ya puestos, una ubicacion donde bajarla).
El uso principal seria: aprender trasteando el F31....para luego meterle mano al F36.......

Sería alguien tan amable de guiarme??
Thanks
 

Bandel

En Practicas
Pues llevo unos dias leyendo todo esto, a la espera de que me llegue el cable y empezar a trastear.
A priori (repito, no tengo todavia el cable), me despista la cantidad de versiones y cual debería usar....
Me recomendais alguna (y ya puestos, una ubicacion donde bajarla).
El uso principal seria: aprender trasteando el F31....para luego meterle mano al F36.......

Sería alguien tan amable de guiarme??
Thanks

Yo te sugeriría esperar a que te llegue el cable ya que estoy viendo en este instante que ya hay otro update ISTA 4.03.21.18572 y estoy leyendo un .pdf donde dice:

Multi-session capability of ISTA 4
Benefit: Running multiple programming or diagnosis sessions on one device, similarly to ISTA/P.
Planned for ISTA 4.04.1x

Update of navigation maps in ISTA 4
Benefit: Update of the map data by ISTA 4 in motor vehicles with navigation system.
Planned for ISTA 4.05.1x. Up to then, the update can be performed with ISTA/P.


es decir que ya están planeando la 4.05.1xx
 

willymatheus

En Practicas
SALUDOS AMIGOS E HABLADO DIRECTAMENTE CON EL FABRICANTE DEL SOFTWARE Y ME HA RESPONDIDO ALGUNAS INQUIETUDES PERSONALES SOBRE RHEINGOLD E ICOM, POR ACA SE LAS PASO SOLO QUE ESTA EN INGLES


Hi Willi,


Thank you for contacting Rheingold USA LLC,


1-Our certified software set (ISTAD & ISTAP) are both the ‘original’ BMW software developed as a standalone offline version, check out the table below:


Standalone version (From RheingoldUSA LLC)

Online version

It won’t need any internet access

It needs a very solid high speed internet

It won’t need any subscription.

It needs subscription (around $2500 per year)

It can be mobile which is a big advantage to many dealers / workshops who already bought it.


It cannot be mobile since it needs an internet connection.

It won’t pull the vehicle repair / maintenance history online unless there was an actual work been done using the same certified software, as the software pulls it from the local database*.

It can pull the vehicle repair / maintenance history if found in BMW database.

Support / provide OEM ECU(s) firmware.

Support / provide OEM ECU(s) firmware.

Updates comes as a download link or a BMW FOB USB flash drive when needed ‘not a MUST’.

Updates comes online and they are a ‘Must’.

You can skip updates as much as you want, then you can update to the latest version for one time buy at %20 discount for return customers.

You cannot skip any updates, and if you do, you will have to pay for all the missing updates in order for your software to get to the latest version.



2-The ICOM(s) are custom build for Rheingold USA LLC, they carry an updated custom firmware which guarantee best connection and performance when working with the certified Rheingold Software set.

With that being said, we never lock our certified software or hardware so people can use them with their own third party tools.


3-Maybe ,but we never guarantee the certified software set to work with any third party hardware like the ICOM A2 because there are a lot of ‘clones’ or cheap build floating all over the internet and they never work or stop working after a while.


4-Yes, it’s Global, works on US and Europe models.


5-It comes with iSetup, a smart automated wizard which scans your machine for any missing components like VC++ and .NET framework then install them for you beside installing the software itself, this is considered a big advantage to some customers like a dealership in North Carolina who spent two months trying to get the online version to work, you can watch the iSetup here:





Please send us any other questions you may have, we love to help

PREGUNTA

Hello, I am very pleased with your answer and I appreciate you took the time to contact me. I have one last question before purchasing your product: would your software work with a genuine ICON A2 NEXT (obtained from a BMW dealership)?


I apologize for asking so many questions, I am simply trying to avoid purchasing a product that won't meet my requirements since other 'clones' do not work as advertised.


Thank you,

Willi

RESPUESTA

You are always welcome Willi,


Quick answer to your question:


It may ,but we cannot guarantee the certified software set to work with any third party hardware like the ICOM A2 even if it’s genuine due to firmware mismatch, we don’t know which firmware your ICOM got and cannot support it.


We suggest getting the software set alone first, give it a try, hopefully it will work with your ICOM, if it doesn’t work, get the certified ICOM A.


The certified software package comes with user guides and a troubleshooting guide which really helped a lot of customers.


PREGUNTA

I appreciate your honesty, and I will definitely be buying your product after reading through your answers. I had a final more general question, what are the differences between ICOM A, ICOM A2, and ICOM A2 NEXT? Just in case the software set alone does not work and I had to buy any of the certified ICOM.


Thank you,

Willi

RESPUESTA

The major differences are the cooling technique and firmware stability,


Our certified ICOM A uses heat sink + cooling FAN.


The ICOM A2 and others uses heatsink only.


The idea behind the ICM A2 and later versions is to minimize the cooling FAN fail possibilities, so they made the heat sink bigger and Fan was removed , well guess what? the excessive heat from the larger heatsink in some versions caused the chip to fail, so it end up as a design error beside chip component quality and higher price.

So, they added a cooling ‘gel’ underneath the chip (believe it or not) and that cause the LAN component to fail after a while.


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The firmware for the ICOM A2 and later versions is hit and miss , customers faced hard times to match it to the required Rheingold one and upgrading the firmware bricked a lot of ICOM A2 which is a loss of time and money.


Our certified ICOM A always comes with an optimized tested firmware which is guaranteed to work with the certified Rheingold software set.


Hope this help,



Regards,


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Mike Garner
 

Manuel Martin Avila

En Practicas
Buenas noches, alguien me puede pasar por privado enlaces para hacerme con el software istap e istad o programas similares que se utilizan hoy en día en los concesionarios bmw. Gracias de antemano.
 

jormi

Forista Senior
SALUDOS AMIGOS E HABLADO DIRECTAMENTE CON EL FABRICANTE DEL SOFTWARE Y ME HA RESPONDIDO ALGUNAS INQUIETUDES PERSONALES SOBRE RHEINGOLD E ICOM, POR ACA SE LAS PASO SOLO QUE ESTA EN INGLES


Hi Willi,


Thank you for contacting Rheingold USA LLC,


1-Our certified software set (ISTAD & ISTAP) are both the ‘original’ BMW software developed as a standalone offline version, check out the table below:


Standalone version (From RheingoldUSA LLC)

Online version

It won’t need any internet access

It needs a very solid high speed internet

It won’t need any subscription.

It needs subscription (around $2500 per year)

It can be mobile which is a big advantage to many dealers / workshops who already bought it.


It cannot be mobile since it needs an internet connection.

It won’t pull the vehicle repair / maintenance history online unless there was an actual work been done using the same certified software, as the software pulls it from the local database*.

It can pull the vehicle repair / maintenance history if found in BMW database.

Support / provide OEM ECU(s) firmware.

Support / provide OEM ECU(s) firmware.

Updates comes as a download link or a BMW FOB USB flash drive when needed ‘not a MUST’.

Updates comes online and they are a ‘Must’.

You can skip updates as much as you want, then you can update to the latest version for one time buy at %20 discount for return customers.

You cannot skip any updates, and if you do, you will have to pay for all the missing updates in order for your software to get to the latest version.



2-The ICOM(s) are custom build for Rheingold USA LLC, they carry an updated custom firmware which guarantee best connection and performance when working with the certified Rheingold Software set.

With that being said, we never lock our certified software or hardware so people can use them with their own third party tools.


3-Maybe ,but we never guarantee the certified software set to work with any third party hardware like the ICOM A2 because there are a lot of ‘clones’ or cheap build floating all over the internet and they never work or stop working after a while.


4-Yes, it’s Global, works on US and Europe models.


5-It comes with iSetup, a smart automated wizard which scans your machine for any missing components like VC++ and .NET framework then install them for you beside installing the software itself, this is considered a big advantage to some customers like a dealership in North Carolina who spent two months trying to get the online version to work, you can watch the iSetup here:





Please send us any other questions you may have, we love to help

PREGUNTA

Hello, I am very pleased with your answer and I appreciate you took the time to contact me. I have one last question before purchasing your product: would your software work with a genuine ICON A2 NEXT (obtained from a BMW dealership)?


I apologize for asking so many questions, I am simply trying to avoid purchasing a product that won't meet my requirements since other 'clones' do not work as advertised.


Thank you,

Willi

RESPUESTA

You are always welcome Willi,


Quick answer to your question:


It may ,but we cannot guarantee the certified software set to work with any third party hardware like the ICOM A2 even if it’s genuine due to firmware mismatch, we don’t know which firmware your ICOM got and cannot support it.


We suggest getting the software set alone first, give it a try, hopefully it will work with your ICOM, if it doesn’t work, get the certified ICOM A.


The certified software package comes with user guides and a troubleshooting guide which really helped a lot of customers.


PREGUNTA

I appreciate your honesty, and I will definitely be buying your product after reading through your answers. I had a final more general question, what are the differences between ICOM A, ICOM A2, and ICOM A2 NEXT? Just in case the software set alone does not work and I had to buy any of the certified ICOM.


Thank you,

Willi

RESPUESTA

The major differences are the cooling technique and firmware stability,


Our certified ICOM A uses heat sink + cooling FAN.


The ICOM A2 and others uses heatsink only.


The idea behind the ICM A2 and later versions is to minimize the cooling FAN fail possibilities, so they made the heat sink bigger and Fan was removed , well guess what? the excessive heat from the larger heatsink in some versions caused the chip to fail, so it end up as a design error beside chip component quality and higher price.

So, they added a cooling ‘gel’ underneath the chip (believe it or not) and that cause the LAN component to fail after a while.


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The firmware for the ICOM A2 and later versions is hit and miss , customers faced hard times to match it to the required Rheingold one and upgrading the firmware bricked a lot of ICOM A2 which is a loss of time and money.


Our certified ICOM A always comes with an optimized tested firmware which is guaranteed to work with the certified Rheingold software set.


Hope this help,



Regards,


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Mike Garner



gracias tron! pero haznos un resumen porque minoentender jajaj
 
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