Fotos Ya se que da vergüencita, pero hay que hablar del Tesla Cybertruck

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    perdona que te diga ; pero tesla viene muy fuerte .
     
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    Andaros con ojo...el cybertruck lleva los cristales blindados. Es un punto a su favor.
    La Multipla nunca los llevó.
     
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    Ahora pondrán a prueba a todos los fans de la marca.......seguro que se reservan 15.000 en menos de una semana.....:wtf:
     
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    Se habla mucho del exterior, pero el interior es super bonito y acogedor.

    Creo que es lo peor que he visto jamás.

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    Bien visto! :amo:

    Las ruedas del Cyberpunk me recuerdan a algo...

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    El M577 que aparecía en la película "Aliens":

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    Las acciones de Tesla cayeron casi un 7% tras la presentación del zarrio :LOL:
    No es el rebote del gato muerto, es la silueta del cybertruck :descojon:


    Tesla Stock Drops Nearly 7 Percent After Cybertruck Unveiling
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    Tesla unveiled their highly anticipated Cybertruck last night, and many were taken aback by its controversial looks that resemble the love child of a Delorean and a doorstop. The reactions to the pickup have been brutal and many are asking how Tesla could have approved such ugly pickup. They’re not alone as Wall Street apparently hates it too.

    Following last night’s unveiling, Tesla stock plunged by nearly seven percent from yesterday’s close at 354.83. At 10:15 EST, the stock hit 330.66 before slightly recovering. That’s a significant change and it appears to be a direct result of last night’s unveiling. However, it’s not all bad news as Tesla’s stock is still up nearly 80 points since last month.


    While there’s plenty of time for the stock to regain lost ground, it could be a concerning development for Tesla. As of now, it appears investors don’t have much faith in the model. Why that is remains unclear, but it’s possible they believe such a radically styled vehicle will fall flat with consumers.

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    If that’s the case, they’re not alone. Even some Tesla fans weren’t thrilled with the Cybertruck and took to the company’s forums to ask “Wtf did I just see?” and say it’s the “ugliest vehicle I have ever seen.” Others joked that it reminded them of the Pontiac Aztek. However, a majority weren’t too critical and some even claimed to have placed a deposit.

    The reaction was more negative at the TeslaOwnersOnline forum as the leading result for a poll about the truck was “Um … no!” While some people said they placed an order, other comments ranged from “I puked in my mouth a bit” to “Teslas are so sleek and S3XY, and this just isn’t.”

    Of course, fans will have plenty of time to get used to the truck as it isn’t slated to be launched until 2021. That coincides with the launch of GM’s electric pickup.



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    Representa muy bien lo que es Tesla, mucho humo.

    Hasta los de la teletienda lo hacen mejor, presentan algo y es acojonante, ahora cuando lo recibes... biggrin
     
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    Comparándolo con los zarrios actuales cada vez me gusta más :devil: y ya os digo que como sea cierto el precio base lo va a petar :chulo:

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    Pues si creeis que es feo, esperad a la versión de serie con ruedas "normales", al menos en europa esta prohibido que las ruedas sobresalgan de la proyección zenital de la carrocería.

    Con unas ruedas "lisas" ese diseño va a ser un esperpento.

    Eso si, mola un huevazo lo que hace Musk, tienes una empresa y haces lo que te sale de los huevos, y te siguen financiando y aplaudiendo. Mola.
     
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    Yo creo que no vendrá a Europa, esos casi 6 metros de zarrio son para USA, China, Rusia y Oriente Medio, donde lo va a petar biggrin



     
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    Tranquilo, se ponen unos plásticos adicionales en las aletas como hace Volvo y listobiggrin
     
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    Por cierto me hace mogollón de gracia que un diseño con chapas planas se considere futurista, cuando lo difícil es hacer piezas estampadas con nervaduras y pliegues en piezas distintas y que todo cuadre bien montadas.

    Y por cierto en automoción se huye de chapas planas porque tienen unas características acústicas (tema resonancias y amplificación de ruidos) muy poco favorables.
     
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    Imagino que lo de las chapas rectas será por precio más barato y más rapidez en la fabricación...
     
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    Aquí aclara porqué lleva la chapa recta, es por el tipo de acero, más resistente y más barato :pompous:


    https://insideevs.com/news/384073/tesla-cybertruck-design-requirements/

    Tesla Cybertruck Was Designed To Meet These 6 Specific Requirements


    NOV 23, 2019 at 11:53AM

    By: David Roper

    There's a reason the Cybertruck looks exactly like it does.
    I assume that Tesla set the following requirements that the Tesla Cybertruck design must satisfy:

    1. Tough exterior.
    2. Low aerodynamic resistance to allow long-range and high efficiency.
    3. Large and comfortable interior.
    4. Variable ground clearance, low for ingress and egress and highway driving and quite high for rough terrain.
    5. Good storage, bed and towing capacity.
    6. Battery capacity to provide long-range and high efficiency.
    Item 1 above is best achieved by thick hardened (cold-rolled) stainless steel. Such steel is difficult to stamp into curvature form. So, such a tough exterior is usually composed of flat sheets. Since the Cybertruck’s exterior is made of hardened stainless steel, it has flat panels joined by angles.

    Item 2 above requires that the Cybertruck have an upward-sloping hood and windshield and an inward-sloping nose:

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    Item 2 also requires that the Cybertruck have a “spoiler” rear to reduce turbulence and rear lift:

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    Note the spoiler effect behind the cab when the cover is retracted and behind the Cybertruck when the cover is in place.


    The combination of items 1 and 2 must be arranged such as to provide items 3 and 5. The Cybertruck has done this very well!

    Item 4 is well provided for by the design of the Cybertruck.

    Tesla is the world leader in proving the needed battery capacity of item 6.

    Unanswered Questions
    Will the Cybertruck have cameras in place of side mirrors?

    What is the makeup of a front crumple zone?

    Will the Cybertruck automatically lower to a user-selected height when the owner approaches?

    Will the smartphone app be able to raise and lower the Cybertruck and open and close the bed cover?

    Conclusion
    The design requirements almost force the design selected for the Cybertruck. Using only design requirements 1, 3 and 4, one could select the Bollinger design:

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    Esa posición de faros tiene que ser terrible para iluminar las cunetas.
     
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    Con la moto atrás la suspensión no aguanta. Eje trasero autonivelante ya...
     
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    Learn Why The Tesla Cybertruck Makes Perfect Sense



    NOV 22, 2019 at 3:48PM

    By: Gustavo Henrique Ruffo

    There is much more to it than meets the eye.
    Elon Musk started the Tesla Cybertruck unveil stating this:

    “Trucks have been the same for a very long time. We want to try something different. It is hard to say which is which. We need to make different. And we need sustainable energy now. If we don’t have a pickup truck, we can’t solve it. It is the number one selling vehicle in America. Top three.”

    That pretty much sums up what was the goal of the Cybertruck. It is the Master Plan for it. For Tesla, it is the Trojan horse that will take the idea of electric mobility where it has never been before in a competitive way. But how could it get there?

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    The typical clients of pickup trucks would not even consider a vehicle that was too costly as an option. It should be all about function and low cost of ownership. Getting it to cost $39,900 instead of the promised $49,000 was a masterstroke.

    Secondly, it had to be reliable. You could not have a vehicle that would stop 33 times in 3 years for repairs. You could not have something that could rust, have paint problems, or stop for any other reason.


    We did not get a chance to talk to Tesla about this, but we believe these are the reasons for the Cybertruck to look like it does. After reading our explanations, you will get our point. We just hope not to make any mistake for not being able to talk to the company about our doubts.

    The curvy styling of most Teslas makes them desirable. Sexy, as the lineup state loud and clear. Did you notice the Cybertruck is not part of S3XY? That is probably on purpose. Tesla knows it isn’t attractive in terms of style. It could be, but that is not what pickup truck buyers are looking for. They want tough. They want rugged and capable.

    Musk asking Franz von Holzhausen to hit the Ultra-Hard 30X Cold-Rolled stainless-steel body parts with a sledgehammer was not to bash Ford and the F-150. It sure seemed to be, but that was perhaps a plus in the strategy. As it probably was to let Holzhausen hit a vehicle he knows that does not look good: a catharsis.

    Musk’s intention probably was to demonstrate this Tesla will handle things all other cars from the brand wouldn’t. That the competition, trying to make pickup trucks lighter, also could not cope with. Because it is made of more than stainless-steel: It is a special alloy developed for the SpaceX Starship Rocket.

    Both vehicles will use the same material. In a way, we can say that the Cybertruck will help the Starship Rockets be cheaper due to scale. The more they produce it, the cheaper it gets. That is a must: cold-rolled steel is more expensive than hot-rolled steel. It is also harder and stronger.

    It is not the kind of material you put on a press to make it curvy and sexy, especially this stronger alloy. So you do not stamp it. You fold it. That explains why the pickup truck is so boxy, but that is not the only reason.

    Musk spoke about it, and very few paid attention to this. He mentioned the Cybertruck has the “same dimensions and same weight” of a Ford F-150. We repeat that: the same weight. For an electric pickup truck with a massive battery pack. How is that possible? Due to “stressed-skin design,” the same sort of structure airplanes have.

    Go search about it, and you’ll learn it is an intermediate between a monocoque and a “frame with a non-loaded covering.” Musk said more about that:

    “We moved the mass to the outside. We’ve created an exoskeleton. The way that trucks are normally designed, you have a body-on-frame, a bed-on-frame. And the body and the bed don’t do anything useful. They are carried like cargo, like a sack of potatoes. It was the way that aircraft used to be designed when we had biplanes, basically. The key to creating an effective monoplane was a stressed-skin design. You move the stress to the outside skin. Allows you to do things you can’t do with body-on-frame.”

    Think of a shoebox. It bends easily because it is square. Adding diagonals to it makes the structure really resistant because the sides cannot flex anymore. Those diagonals are the outer skin. In other words, the edgy lines people judge to consider this engineering marvel ugly. The skin plays the role of the frame, so the pickup truck can be much lighter than anything we have already seen on the roads.

    If you think it through, the Cybertruck will be built like a monoplane. It is putting aeronautical tech at the reach of regular consumers. We would not doubt that its structure is bonded instead of welded. Like airplanes are.

    The final reason for the pickup truck to be so square is that too much complexity in the bending of the stainless-steel sheets would just make it more expensive. People are not criticizing the Cybertruck because it is too elaborate. They are amazed that it looks so simple, like a child drawing of a sedan. Perhaps even simpler than that. Well, that is on purpose.

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    We have an example of this that is really close to most people in the world except the Americans. It is called Dacia Logan. Or Renault, in places where Dacia does not exist.

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    Renault wanted to make a really cheap compact car. So cheap, it was even considered as a subcompact car, but there is a caveat with that classification. It managed to offer the same roominess of a Toyota Corolla for the price of a Yaris. Perhaps even more for even less. Renault achieved that with a car that had solely square lines on the body. Even the glasses were plain. That made them easier to brake. Could this be the reason for the Tesla Armor glass to have shattered? Perhaps.

    The Logan was responsible not only for the expansion of Dacia. It also saved Renault in many countries. It gave the company a share it never imagined to have in developing countries. It was the company’s Troyan horse in these markets. European’s also liked the bargain idea, and the Logan sold in large numbers in the Old Continent as well.

    Some will still ask why the pickup truck does not present a design that makes it clear where the bed starts. A three-box, as everyone is used to see. Credit that to aerodynamics.

    An empty bed is like an open parachute. A combustion engine on cheap gasoline can turn that into more carbon on the atmosphere, and regular pickup truck drivers could not care less. It does not fall heavily on their pockets.

    An electric vehicle would suffer much more from that. It would lose range. It would be less efficient and charge more money and more often with recharges. If the Cybertruck could avoid that by covering the bed, why not? That is what Tesla did.

    The company did not inform us of the drag coefficient, but it must be incredibly low for a pickup truck. Its self-leveling suspension can help it have a smaller frontal area, which allows it to be even more aerodynamically efficient and still capable on trails, rocks, mud, or sand.

    As much as you may loathe it, this design helped Tesla have an electric pickup truck that has “the same weight” of a regular one. It made it affordable in a way no one expected. It made it efficient. And its body stands 9 mm shots or sledgehammer hits with poise.

    If you are concerned about standing too much in the crowd with it, just wait a bit. If people see the Cybertruck for what it is, there will be soon too many silver electric pickup trucks around for you to be quite low profile with yours. You may even need to summon it to discover which of them actually belongs to you.

    https://insideevs.com/features/383976/why-tesla-cybertruck-makes-sense/
     
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    Se lo ha copiado a los hermanos de @ObiWan :devil:




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    da la sensación que cualquiera con cuatro pletinas se podría hacer una carrocería igual
     
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    Al que sí le ha copiado descaradamente es al brasileño Renha Formigão :chulo:

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